Finding Family… dad’s 1st cousin 2x removed

Is there a more satisfying feeling when you’ve gone that extra mile, checked that extra record, about to “throw in the towel” and then SUCCESS???…  I’m smiling 😀  

My dad’s “Crout family”, from Hampshire, England, are a complicated bunch but so so interesting.  After much hunting and searching I reckon I’ve finally located all of my Great Great Grandfather’s 10 siblings. Takes a heck of a lot of time to do even a quick search of each of them, especially if they too have large families… and some of them sure do… puff puff puff.

Well, I’ve been slowly working through Great Great Grandad’s siblings and finally got to one of his 5 younger sisters, Frances Sophia Crout.  Her second son, fathered 15 children!!!.  By the time I worked through all that lot, their marriages and their children, Frances Sophia’s next child was a bit of a relief, in some ways, as no documentary evidence jumped out at me. With a sigh of relief I was about to put Henry Frederick to one side with the thought that maybe he’d died young and I just hadn’t found the evidence yet. Something stopped me and how happy I am that it did for, to my delight and surprise, another fascinatingly interesting part of my family “came to light”.

BDM indexes, census reports, passenger lists etc. show that my 1st cousin 3x removed, Henry Frederick Johnston… the fourth of my 2nd Great Grand Aunt’s children married Mary. They had 2 sons and then in 1902 Henry “scarpered across the pond” to Canada without his wife and children just like my own Grandfather did 10 years later. However, much to my surprise, instead of this Henry setting up with a new wife and family… his wife Mary and sons; Keith Stewart and Jack Murray joined him 10 years later.

Like my Grandfather, Henry (Harry) Eden Crout, young Jack also joined the Canadian Expeditionary Force and fought in France throughout World War 1, although in different regiments. I wonder if they knew each other? My Grandfather migrated to Montreal, Quebec… whilst Jack, his brother and parents moved to Winipeg, Manitoba.

More work to be done yet, of course 🙂 … but what an amazing journey it’s been with these Crout’s, of mine. Despite the family stories, I’ve found not a drop of Scottish blood in any of them. At least my Grandmother Marie Ogilvie’s dad, James, was Scottish. You can read about that here and a little about her Grandfather who was born, and died, in Elgin Scotland here.

However, I now know where my fascination with sailing ships comes from and that certainly is not just from my Grandpa, Frederick Alexander Allan.  

“Aye, aye, matie!!!” … 😀


Copyright © 2012. Catherine Crout-Habel. “Seeking Susan ~ Meeting Marie ~ Finding Family      

8 thoughts on “Finding Family… dad’s 1st cousin 2x removed

  1. Certainly a great find, I won’t say it was good luck, more like dogged persistence… well done. What an interesting lot they are, these Crouts of yours… 10 years later the wife and family joined the husband? Makes you wonder what kind of life each of hem had separately for those 10 years and how often they communicated… did Henry ever visit his family in those years? Oh, for a portal to glimpse a specific period in time now and then…

    • Thanks Chris… mum would call it “good old fashioned spade work” 🙂 Yep, they sure are a most interesting bunch and I haven’t even told the story yet of my 3x Great Grandfather and his “derring do on the high seas” in the capturing of a slave ship off the coast at Lagos! … Cutlasses, muskets etc. and a TRUE story. He’s recorded as a British Naval Hero in their maritime history. Phew…
      Need to do some follow up research re: passenger lists and find out which of the family first joined dad/hubby? … I know that the youngest son travelled alone. He was a “Licensed Victualler” in 1901 in Lambeth, London and in 1911, whilst he was in Canada, she was a “Confectioner Retailer” in Hackney with their two teenage sons and a female assistant. mmm???

    • Thanks luvvie… and will we ever forget your late night phone call exclaiming “Mum!!! did you know that Grandad had a sister?” … and so began my obsession with on-line research 🙂 … They can run but they can’t hide 😀 xxx

    • Thanks Pauline… but you know how it is, eh? Once you’re “on the trail” you just can’t stop!!! 🙂 Yes, all a bit of a mystery and intriguing. I can’t help wondering why he left England. Was he is some sort of “bother” with the law, maybe? … Guess I need to check the newspapers for any possible little snippets…

  2. Ah the thrill of the chase! Well done Catherine (and Kirrily)!! I’ve not heard the surname Crout before, where are its origins? It’s not a common surname is it?

  3. Thanks Kerryn & it’s great to be able to share with other “family history sleuths”, eh? 🙂 Not a terribly common name, esp in Oz. I was surprised to see how many Crout’s migrated from Europe to North America… way back in time.
    Have only been able to trace mine back to 1750, so far… but not sure where he was born. His son was born 1772, in London. Think the family were originally “Thames Watermen” who transferred to Royal Navy, which was common… and went to live in Portsmouth, Portsea etc. … and some to Wales, with the Navy.
    The belief is that originally the Crout’s were from Alscace, France, on border with Germany. Ownership bounced backwards and forwards but originally was a possession of Holy Roman Empire, then part of the Protestant reformation etc. Think my Crouts may have been amongst those who fled at the time of 30yrs war (Mid 17th C)??? but none of this is confirmed. Need to do some more digging … Cheers.

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